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Imperial Sugar wants secret bashers revealed

By Tasha Gatlin and Ben Werner
Savannah Morning News
July 20, 2000
 

Do you Yahoo? If so, you also better watch what you say.

Savannah Foods' parent company, Imperial Sugar Co., is taking Web directory Yahoo to court to discover the real names of people who leave defamatory messages on the site's message board.

Imperial Sugar claims several people have written messages about the company that damage its business.

On Friday, the 152nd Judicial District Court of Harris County, Texas, (Houston area) will decide whether to order Yahoo to grant Imperial's request. Publicly traded Imperial Sugar is based in Sugarland, Texas.

During the past 60 days, there have been some "very strong" chat room discussions about improprieties at an Imperial facility and postings that could count as Securities and Exchange Commission violations, according to William Schwer, general council for Imperial.

"We're not saying that Yahoo is doing anything wrong, and that is why Yahoo has generally cooperated with companies," Schwer said. He also said Yahoo's policy states it will release names under court order.

What people have to remember is although they may be voicing their opinions in cyberspace, what they say there is still subject to very familiar-sounding rules and laws, said Coralee Whitcomb, president of the Palo Alto, Calif.-based Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility.

Services like Yahoo have to be very clear what their rules are and what their privacy policies are, she said. Meanwhile, users have to read these rules.

Part of the confusion also comes from a national reluctance to make decisions about Internet laws. Congress and the Securities and Exchange Commission have been slow to address the Internet, Whitcomb said.

"We haven't necessarily made the overlay of real world laws onto the Internet," Whitcomb said.

The Motivation

When Imperial presents its case on Friday, its lawyers will be trying to do just that. The company wants to know the real people behind the following user names: "ducko-1999," "mouthofthesouth1961," "bestinthewest," "midwestrader," "henryvii2040," "shawnelson," "irightuwrong," and "buy-lower-sell-higher."

As for the actions Imperial would take after learning the true identities, Schwer declined to give any details other than saying the company is interested in talking to the people.

"We don't know what they're trying to do," Schwer said.

Some messages have alleged sexual and substance abuse at Imperial facilities. These messages resulted in Imperial launching an internal investigation.

"We have not to date found anything to support those allegations," Schwer said.

Other messages have listed either suspected inside information -- such as potential deals only company employees are privy to -- or suspected fraudulent information.

In either case, Schwer said, posting such information could qualify as Securities and Exchange Commission violations by manipulating stock prices.

For several years now, Imperial has been beset by a world sugar glut, mounting debt from its acquisition of companies such as Savannah Foods and Wall Street indifference to the sugar industry.

The result has been a steadily slipping stock price. With such a depressed stock, any fraudulent information released to the public could possibly hamper the company's ability to protect investors.

"If they are leaking inside information, I think we have the responsibility to find out," Schwer said.

Rules of the Web

Yahoo -- like hundreds of other Web sites -- offers free e-mail accounts to subscribers. Users fill out an online registration form for the service.

As part of its terms of service, the Santa Clara, Calif.-based company requires subscribers to provide true information about themselves and to update the information.

The message board system will allow a person with an e-mail account to post messages. The Yahoo terms of service specify "when you register with Yahoo, we ask for your name, e-mail address, birth date, gender, zip code, occupation, industry and personal interests. Once you register with Yahoo and sign in to our services, you are not anonymous to us."

Yahoo does not take responsibility for the accuracy, integrity or quality of information found on its site. It does, however, require members to not "transmit any content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable."

The Web giant states it will not sell or rent the personal information of users but "we will respond to subpoenas, court orders or legal process."

Yahoo officials were mum on details regarding the case, stating in an e-mail that it does not release details about pending litigation.

Schwer said Imperial filed its court petition based on what other companies have done to learn the true identities of message board posters.

"The petition itself is a way to clear that it is not a Yahoo issue," Schwer said.

Yahoo spokeswoman Shannon Stubo wouldn't say how many times the company has released user identification, but did say Yahoo has complied with subpoenas since 1996 when the site first offered message boards. Yahoo will notify subscribers about the subpoena and give them 15 days to respond.

"Yes, we've turned over user information when we've been compelled to do so," she said.

The Effects

While companies like Imperial Sugar can use the legal system to sniff out people who post damaging or libelous information under the cloak of anonymity, such action can also have a chilling effect for users.

Subscribers often get a sense of community out of informing or debating with other similar-minded people online. But, with the threat of legal action hanging over their musings, users may want be wary of what they say online.

"We've moved from a world where conversations within someone's home or small groups have been moved online for the world to view," Alan Davidson, staff counsel with the Center for Democracy and Technology in Washington D.C. The organization is a non-profit civil liberties group geared toward research and public policy development for the Internet.

"I'd hate to see a world where an exciting new way to talk to each other is responsible for dragging people to court every other day," he said.

Davidson concedes message board users looking to cause trouble won't have to look far. But he doubts the ranting online posters make will adversely affect a company in any great degree.

"I have to wonder how much impact any given message board will have on the value of a company or its stock. People who frequent message boards know they have to take everything they read online suspiciously," Davidson said.